Elementary 2x12

[killerweasel.livejournal.com]

Discussion post for Elementary 2x12 'The Diabolical Kind'.

Spoilers in the comments.

What did you think?

Comments

[darknessfactor.livejournal.com]

I enjoyed it a lot. I was completely blindsided by the little revelation they threw in there, though. This probably isn't the last we've seen of Moriarty. I wonder if Sherlock will want to help Moriarty find out who gave away that she had a daughter?

[wolfinred.livejournal.com]

I'm sure he will. I hope we get to meet the dad.

...what if it's Mycroft?

[darknessfactor.livejournal.com]

God, I will not be able to take it if that happens. This show gives me enough heart attacks as it is.

(Wouldn't put it past the writers, though.)

[rap541.livejournal.com]

Obviously its Mycroft :)

[honor-reid.livejournal.com]

I thought this episode was very well done.

I am glad that they brought Moriarty back, and the twist was unexpected. I was not surprised that Sherlock and Moriarty had been communicating, they do have a connection (for better or worse) with each other. I think Sherlock should be more careful with what he reveals to her (such as Watson's love life) because she will use it against him at some point. I do wonder what the man wanted from Moriarty that she didn't want to give up. Watson's conversation with her was awesomely done.

Also loved the painting of Watson!

[rap541.livejournal.com]

I did like the conversation between Joan and Irene as well in that I think Irene really thought Joan was a fluke, intelligence wise.

[rap541.livejournal.com]

I liked that Moriarty is back as well but I am going to call BS on some of the more contrived parts. I don't think the kid is contrived but I do think revealing that Irene had a kid most of the way thru an episode is contrived, and Irene isn't that pretty that she can only be guarded by gay men lest her feminine wiles come into play. I mean, we do have a few men in the federal system who aren't ruled by their balls.

I liked Sherlock's hope that Irene could change... and Irene's obvious jealousy of Joan.

[horrorfangirl.livejournal.com]

I think my favorite scene is where we see Sherlock in a beekeeper's suit and Joan asks ''Is that clean laundry?"
As to the rest of the episode:the idea that Irene's head henchman would stike now while she's in federal custady was kind of stupid. Doesn't he realize the most dangerous thing is a mother when her child is threatened?

[mantriddrone.livejournal.com]

lots of good stuff in this episode. excellent emotional development and exploration for all the main characters as well being one of the few episodes this season to warrant a repeat viewing.

[atheist-cheese.livejournal.com]

Holmes is going to have to figure some stuff out with Moriarty and I'm really curious as to how it's going to change him, in the long run.

I love love love the Joan/Moriarty interaction. I love how calm and collected Joan always is, how Moriarty's constant poking at her seems desperate and ultimately futile. I like the power dynamic there, it's fascinating to watch.

It's interesting to see how Holmes' and Moriarty's dysfunctions interact. Their love, such as it is, is interesting. They both seem the type to dismiss romance, but in the end their interaction is becoming more and more intimate. Moriarty's no longer pretending to be Irene and Holmes knows everything she has done and yet they write each other. Perhaps another grand manipulation on Moriarty's part, but you have to wonder. She doesn't seem to be the type completely without empathy or capacity for emotion, and the nature of ruses and cons are not so simple when it comes to human entanglements. They are drawn to each other, apparently, in a way that sounds so much like the inexplicable, uncontrollable romance of convention, that if you strip away all the murder and crime you may as well have the beginning of a harlequin romance, or at least foreplay.

The philosophical absolutism both these characters often show makes me question their so called superior intelligence, but, eh, that may just be my biases.

I am not a visual person at all but I was fascinated by the expression Moriarty painted onto Joan.

See, this is what you're good at Elementary writers. Good characters with interesting interactions and a presentation that is just unpredictable enough to keep you going. Please please please stop with the focus on the single episode cases, or at least more research that 5 minutes on google for your concepts.