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Discussion post for Elementary 3x4 'Bella'.

Spoilers in the comments.

What did you think?

Date: 2014-11-21 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wanderlost.livejournal.com
I've just started watching... and Kitty called Clyde "the turtle." THE TURTLE? His name is Clyde and he's more fabulous than you'll ever be, Kitty!

She's testing my patience, peeps. First Bell, now Clyde. If she says something mean about Alfredo (miss him) or Miss Hudson (miss her) or Randy (where he at), I'll be through with her for good!

Date: 2014-11-21 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarienemrys.livejournal.com
I miss Alfredo too, I hope he will come back in S3. I was beginning to like Kitty in 3rd episode... may be it was too soon.

Date: 2014-11-21 04:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] venusinthenight
Alfredo will be back at some point this season. So will Ms. Hudson. :)

Date: 2014-11-21 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarienemrys.livejournal.com
Oh That is good news! I love Alfredo and Ms. Hudson. One of the good things about Elementary. So many good characters!

Date: 2014-11-21 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordshiva.livejournal.com
WTF kind of ending was that?

Date: 2014-11-21 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonsally.livejournal.com
a two parter one I hope!

Date: 2014-11-21 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazlet.livejournal.com
That was an introduction of an Arch Villain.

Date: 2014-11-21 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horrorfangirl.livejournal.com
I thought the episode was really good, and it was kind of nice to see that Holmes & Watson were trying to work some things out. And it was nice to see them NOT catch the bad guy all the time. Although I know some people would want to see the old man in jail. Surprised that Holmes tried to blackmail to get that done, though.

I admit I'm not a big fan of either Kitty nor Andrew, Watson should stay with Sherlock. I'd be glad to see both newbies go!

Date: 2014-11-22 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com
I posted this over on my journal.


We are creeping into something in this episode, but I'm not sure what. My initial gut reaction to Sherlock and Joan coming to terms with her relationship with what'shisname (and, of course, there will be someone on the plane or in Copenhagen with whom what'shisname is kanoodling with and her (or his) name is NOT Joan). There was a charming embarrassment with both of them and an undercurrent of sexual vibe, methinks. Nicely done scene by both of them. I didn't think the writers were going to take their relationship there, but slowly I am becoming convinced that they might. Sherlocks admits to that creepy doll that he loves Joan (and his mother! Backstory please!), and, of course, Irene. Am I the only one thinking that a romantic involvement is brewing, at least on Sherlock's part?

Kitty remains a side character, much in the vein of Marcus Bell and Gregson. Good. That is where she belongs. Of course, I anticipate that there will be a segment at some point devoted to her story, but in the same vein as Bell's backstory; it won't dominate the series. It will be a sideline story to the real story, which is Joan and Sherlock's story.

The issue of artificial intelligence is a fascinating one (not that I think we will be bested by machines--this does seem rather a 2001: A Space Odyssey retrea--but then what in the hell do I know), but it only fascinates me in terms of it's mirror into Sherlock's relationship with others. HIS intelligence in some ways is artificial because it is so phenomenal. He is, in a way, Bella's doppleganger. Their intelligence (artificial or no) traps them. Bella is a machine whose intelligence (allegedly) forces her to connect with others. Sherlock is a man whose intelligence separates him from others.

I think one of the most poignant scene in the entire series is when Sherlock and Irene face each other with the knowledge that they aren't like others. Their minds work in a clinical, almost inhuman way. What this episode does, I think, it to prove to Sherlock that he has one foot in either camp. He cannot play the villain at his own game as he is called out, so to speak. He is outed as a human! And this is Joan's strength. The human who reaches him. She is intelligent, but she is no genius, and yet he connects with her not as like minds, as in the case of Irene, but on a very human, emotional level that is reserved only for his mother.

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